IPF Ban Metal, Craine and APT Equipment

Rick said:
If they haven't pulled out, we should not encourage them to. (And they can still sell us, and we can still use, belts.)
I have just read the IPF rulebook. It says that t-shirts must be plain except under certain conditions; this is pretty clear. It's also clear on supportive equipment (shirts, suits and wraps); these are forbidden unless explicitly permitted on an item-by-item bases.
It also provides (in the equipment rules and kit check rules) that sponsor's logos may be worn under certain conditions on belts and on singlets, and that manufacturer's logos need not be covered under certain other conditions. HOWEVER - it does not, very definitely does not, give ANY conditions under which logos MAY NOT appear. (One might argue that it is implied, but it is not stated anywhere that e.g. anything not permitted is forbidden.)
It is clear to me that the rulebook does not prevent me from wearing my Metal singlet or APT belts and that there is no need for me to cover the logos.
If you disagree, I would like a page and paragraph reference to the rulebook, because I cannot find it.

Manufacturer’s logos printed or embroidered measuring no more than 10 cm’s x 2 cm’s on non-supportive suits, T-shirts, and belts need not be masked/covered.

brynevans said:I think you'd only have an issue if there was some overly officious person doing a kit check at an international event. My feeling is that domestically you could be ok. The logo fee is only 250 Euro and it's not clear if they have paid that.

Tony said:Why can't you just wear any old t shirt.

Steve said:
The section on Spnsor's logos (Page 16 of my rule book) sets a size for allowable logos (which I believe is a lot smaller than the Metal logo on their singlet)

Rick said:
It is precisely this section that I was referring to. At no point does it say, anywhere in the rulebook as far as I can tell, that any sort of logo on equipment is NOT permitted - except on t-shirts. It says a lot about what is allowed, and you can argue that it is clear that they MEANT that other things are disallowed - but they haven't said it, and so they aren't.
That doesn't mean I think a kit check official would pass them. But according to the letter of the rule book, they have no reason to turn them down. None.

lifters wishing to take advantage of the rules regarding sponsor’s logos being worn on articles of personal equipment must apply for permission to the General Secretary

Steve said:
I think most referees take this to mean no logos are allowed on any equipment(except smaller than the minimum size) - the rules do not specifically state logos of smaller than the set size are not allowed on shoes/ singlets etc, but lifters do not seem to be asked to cover them

Steve said:
I think most referees take this to mean no logos are allowed on any equipment(except smaller than the minimum size) - the rules do not specifically state logos of smaller than the set size are not allowed on shoes/ singlets etc, but lifters do not seem to be asked to cover them

Wigan said:
Only coming in on the tail end of this for apologies if already discussed, but, there is a difference between a 'sponsors logo' and 'manufacturers logo' surely.
A sponsor would be paying the lifter (in money or in kind) to display their logo, and as such advertising, hence the limitation on the size of logo.
Someone who wears a t-shirt, belt, singlet, that they have purchased that displays the manufacturers logo is not sponsored by the manufacturer so surely the restriction on the size of 'sponsors logo' would not apply???

Rick said:There seems to be speculation that Metal will have come to an agreement before their stuff is banned .

jt said:

and i thought it was due to people being banned for drug use!

Steve said:
Just what I thought
Here's a bit of Powerlifting history about the start of all these Federations
[url=] http://www.starkcenter.org/igh/articles/igh9.3.7.pdf [/url]